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Lady Sicily |
What about Samuel Hill? |
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I have been looking at some things and it would seem that this guy would have been in the right place, at the right time, all the time. PLUS, he had inside
access to the Railroad through his father-in-law. He was also responsible for the building many "roads". Seems like it would be hard to get at a
cache that was buried under a public road..Wouldn't it? Unless you had another way in of course, a hidden entrance, but it would be a smart move. Like
damming up a waterway, burying your treasure and then bursting the dam back open. This guy had money, power, connections AND he started in the South as an
abolitionist, then went North and then....wait for it....yep.....WEST! Just food for thought.
If a thing must be done, it must be done with
grace.
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Tnwoods |
The only problem is | ||
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If we are talking about the same guy - he would have been 7 at the end of the war. Most 7 years olds I have known are not really big on follow
through.....LOL
Unless there is something I am missing (and boy can I miss stuff) I don't see how he would fit in - except in the expansion period later on - when he hit puberty..... |
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Lady Sicily |
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Yes, that is the guy. I guess my train of thought....which I should have elaborated on is this......There are many speculations about what happened to the
"confederate gold" in addition to other various caches. However, it would seem to me that if you turned up with a lot of money right after the war
ended...you would come under great suspicion. So I guess I was thinking that you would not bring your money "back into the country or out of hiding"
for quite some time, if you were smart. By that time Samuel Hill was old enough to recruit". He did marry into the railroad and did a lot of philanthropic
work. I have read a lot of articles about the idea that the James brothers and their ilk were not so much "train robbers & bad guys" as
"Robin hood types". So I guess I am trying to figure a time-line that starts at the civil war and ends with caches still hidden today. So there must
be people throughout history, from then to now that "know" something. I was just thinking that perhaps Sam Hill may fall into that popstwar
time-line. A time when railroad expansion and road building were at a productive pace. That is all just thinking.
If a thing must be done, it must be done with
grace.
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Alechydell |
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Jesse James was not the Robinhood type. The one story floating around about him robbing the banker of money he gave to a women to pay the banker with in the
first place appears to be just that, a story. JJ was a murderer and a thief. Nothing special about him. He was a hothead who couldn't control his temper
and people that got in his way got hurt or dead because of it.
JJ robbed and killed for JJ, no other reason.
It's not what you look at, but what you see.
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Boattow |
hmmm | ||
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Or JJ robbed for the cause he believed in...the south, the KGC.
I just had to throw that in there. |
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Lady Sicily |
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Yes, please know that I have NO personal theories about JJ at this time. I just tossed in there something I had read that surprised me
I have not researched JJ much. I remember hearing stories as a child and they were not good. I know there are theories about the different caches hidden in the USA post-civil-war. I have heard the JJ theories, as well as some others. I guess my mind was already moving forward on the time-line. The "Who came into the picture next?" Here are my bazaar theories on that....Yes I am sure some of the caches are hidden in here-to-fore "unexplored areas". But I think they cannot ALL be dropped down a mine or hidden in the rocks. There is just too much development, some of them should have been found by now...unless they were part of the development. For that to happen some of these rich developers would almost have to be involved. My other theory that ties into this is...in the case of "knights or secret societies" or whatever they call themselves....the treasure or the maps or the locations are usually passed down. They don't usually "die with the first set of members". So again I am looking to the next possible group on the time-line." That is where I am coming from. My brain moves too fast in too many directions and I know it leaves people going "What?!?!? Sorry guys if in this original post I was unclear and just sounding like
an off-base lunatic who could not add! If a thing must be done, it must be done with
grace.
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2late2dig |
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Jesse just didn't hide his loot in mines and rocks. There were several other places he liked to bury things as well.
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Lady Sicily |
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Yes, I imagine he did, but I don't know much about it. Can you share some thoughts on that?
If a thing must be done, it must be done with
grace.
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Alechydell |
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Boattow, you just have to stir that pot, don't you! Generally speaking, anyone who believes in lost treasure that comes across a map will try to figure the map out, I don't care what person or group it
originally came from. It's just human nature.
It's not what you look at, but what you see.
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softy |
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What in the Sam Hill are yous guys talking about???????????
Everybody knows it was Howard Hughes. Mr. Howard Hughes. Least that's what I heard tell about. (:X |
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Alechydell |
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You're getting pretty clever in your old age Softy!
It's not what you look at, but what you see.
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Lady Sicily |
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I think you are right about each generation having a go at looking for it. I guess I did not expand on that. But I made a small mention of other ways into the
cache and I guess that is where I was heading with that. Access for future family. But since I had already gone in about 8 directions simultaneously I thought
I should slow down and address one point at a time. So I am glad you brought this point up. So if a family is passing down said info and one comes along that
is able to parlay said treasure into a family dynasty of sorts. Perhaps, with wills and lawyers and taxes and etc. being so prevalent...a system was devised
for slow withdraw. OR the dynasty is feeding off itself to the extent that the cache becomes a bit of an emergency fund. You know it is there, if you need it
but as the land was willed from gen to gen it is stated that it cannot be dug up or destroyed unless absolutely necessary. Kind of an "In case of
emergency break glass" kind of thing. Please know that none of these are hard, fast theories. I don't have theories engraved in a stone mind. I try to
keep it open to any and all possibilities. Then I just start throwing ideas out there. It amuses me to do so, makes life more interesting that way.
Lady Sicily
PS - BTW I could never pass up a map without looking for the final intended destination. If a thing must be done, it must be done with
grace.
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Alechydell |
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There might be a family or two that have land that they have passed down from generation to generation that has treasure on it but I don't think that is
a very plausible scenario. Most families that have/had maps got them from somebody who actually put the money in the ground. I don't beleive that there are
very many "large depositiories" nor do I believer there ever was. At least not here in the US.
It's not what you look at, but what you see.
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Lady Sicily |
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I would hate to think that is true. If there is nothing buried or hidden anywhere....then what are we all doing here? Seems like it would be a waste of time
not only for us on the board, but for all the guys who are in the field right now. I think there are wonderful things to be found. Everywhere...if you just
know.... not only where to look..... but how to look. As for counting on people to do the "smart thing" I find that is usually a dangerous
assumption.
Lady Sicily
If a thing must be done, it must be done with
grace.
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rockman |
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Alec,
People die and didn't tell where they buried their money. I found about 20 jugs of money right across the street from where I live. The house had fallen in and the old ladies son had me haul it off. The inside of the house was full of junk and was just like it was the day she died. The calender on the wall said 1976. In the back room where the closet had been, (it was all dirt now) I was pulling up old clothes out of the ground and up come a jug of dimes. Most of the jugs in there were 1 gallon clorox bleach bottles. The white ones. By the time I was done pulling jugs of money out of the ground there was a wheelbarrow full. All change. I would guess a couple thousand dollars. There was also a bag of jewerly. I could have walked it across the street and kept it because the son wasn't there and didn't know about it, but I didn't. I called him up and had him come get it. That house set there for 20 years until it fell in. Anybody could have walked in and found it. The doors were'nt locked. There are little treasures just like that everywhere. And most probably don't have a map at all. |
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kanabite |
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good job amigo , you make me think there is hope for the human race with that story . i found 3600 dollars inside an envelope that was in an old ledger once ,
nobody knew it was there. it had been left after some title , land swap deal within their family . it had only been in the book for about 12 years , but i
still walked up and handed back to the old man who had it and a bunch of other books in the back of his car . they were cleaning out an old house , and this
cash had been in that book, resting and forgotten about . it makes you feel good inside to do that kind of stuff.
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rockman |
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Bob,
I've never regretted doing the right thing. I'm glad to hear you did the right thing too! |
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Alechydell |
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I think my last post was misunderstood, or maybe I didn't explain it corretly. I do believe there are plenty of buried/hidden treasures out there to be
found. I have been a treasure hunter for more than 30 years. I wouldn't be doing it if I didn't think there was something to be found. What I was
referring to as NOT being there are the super large depositories, the kind that are attributed to the KGC. I do not think that there are families that have
large treasures on their property that they know about that have left it there for "safe keeping" throught the generations. There are people who own
land that know there are treasures buried on it but don't know where they are but the treasures aren't connected to their family.
Treasure is just about everywhere, you just have to know where to look!
It's not what you look at, but what you see.
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Lady Sicily |
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I agree that it would not be wise to leave a LARGE depository of money anywhere. Even in my late teens I figured out that when I was trying to hide something,
be it money or say marijuana in my room, just an example I would NEVER imbibe!
So I think anyone with a grain of sense, or even the sense God gave a teenage girl would not stick all their money into one big hole in the ground. If a thing must be done, it must be done with
grace.
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SteveNM46 |
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"Never put all your eggs in one basket, or if you do, watch that basket!"
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