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jpsaxnc	Mayans in Florida?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 239 (12/17/08 5:50 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Tags : None The Mayan's were in Yucatan, could they have been in Florida as well? A carved wooden statue, of a kneeling cat, very similar, to staues of Egyptian kneeling cats, was recovered from an excavation in Florida, I saw a photo of it years ago, in a book of Native American artifacts. The Archies, could not place it, within any Native American group. I wondered, because there is a giant statue, of a kneeling cat at a mayan site in Mexico.
Whyte Eagle		#1	[-]
Posts: 12633 (12/17/08 7:47 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Weren't cats also immortalized in statue form in Egypt as well? Just a thought ...
jpsaxnc	Mayans in Florida?	#2	[-]
Posts: 240 (12/17/08 8:10 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Whyte, Yes, the carved statue, is very reminisant of Egypitian statues. I was just thinking, that considering the closeness of the Yucatan, and the fact that there's a giant carved stone kneeling cat, in Mexico, that maybe there was a connection?
Whyte Eagle		#3	[-]
Posts: 12635 (12/17/08 9:30 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Do you have any pics of the artifact?
jpsaxnc	Mayans in Florida?	#4	[-]
Posts: 241 (12/18/08 7:32 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Whyte, Sorry no, I don't have a pic. The book I saw it in, was a large hard cover, and as I recall, the book jacket was a black back round, with a large Nortwest coast, carved wooden mask on it.
Tlaloc	Where?	#5	[-]
Posts: 35 (12/18/08 8:11 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	jpsaxnc wrote: ...the fact that there's a giant carved stone kneeling cat, in Mexico... Where in Mexico?
jpsaxnc	Mayans in Florida?	#6	[-]
Posts: 242 (12/20/08 5:29 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Hi Tlaloc, The statue is a representation of "Hachakyum", who along with his wife, were belived to be the creators of mankind. The statue is is in a temple at Yaxchila'n
ptcarroll		#7	[-]
Posts: 579 (12/21/08 10:14 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Oddly enough, I wouldn't say it is completely impossible. The reason I wouldn't blow it completely off is because of a visit to Ocmulgee National Monument last year. This mound city is located in Macon, Georgia. The story seems to be that three different groups of people came together at that location. One of the groups, the Creeks, has a tradition that they came from the West, from a place that had earthquakes and what might be termed volcanoes. There is a lot of evidence, both from the spoken language and grown foods, that there were connections to Central America. So, it is not completely out of the question, in my mind. Here is some more information: http://www.lostworlds.org/ocmulgee_mounds.html
jpsaxnc	Mayans, in Florida?	#8	[-]
Posts: 243 (01/05/09 5:21 AM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	Thanks PT., Yeah, that's really interesting about the Creeks, coming from the West, it makes sence to me. The Mayans said, that the Aztecs, as well as some other groups, were barbarians, that came down from the North. The missing piece of the puzzle seems to be, how does a group of barbarians, dressed in animal skins, suddenly arrive in the valley of Mexico, and in a short period of time, establish a large city state, that rivals the Mayans? Stoneage barbarians, don't become archetics, and engineers over night, yet, it looks like the Aztecs did. Could the Aztecs have had such cites in the North, that were destroyed by those same earthquakes, and Volcanoes, leaving little or no trace? I think it's possible.
ButtofJokes		#9	[-]
Posts: 18 (01/07/09 6:00 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	ptcarroll wrote: Oddly enough, I wouldn't say it is completely impossible. The reason I wouldn't blow it completely off is because of a visit to Ocmulgee National Monument last year. This mound city is located in Macon, Georgia. The story seems to be that three different groups of people came together at that location. One of the groups, the Creeks, has a tradition that they came from the West, from a place that had earthquakes and what might be termed volcanoes. There is a lot of evidence, both from the spoken language and grown foods, that there were connections to Central America. So, it is not completely out of the question, in my mind. Here is some more information: http://www.lostworlds.org/ocmulgee_mounds.html PT There were six or seven sects, each with an earth lodge, at the Ocmulgee Mounds but only one was rebuilt after all had been destroyed by excavation in the 1930s. According to one archaeologist (a friend), one of these sects were either "Aztec or Mayan, most probably Mayan," though this was not in any official records at the time; the 1960s. The official statements, of that time, said that there was no interaction between these Indians and any Central American groups! I, at one time, the 1960s, was allowed in the 'holy of holies,' a library not open to the public, to research smoking pipes. In this library at the time was a letter written by one of the first explorers in the area who wrote that there was a stone fortress on top of Browns Mount of "European manufacture." However, the official record states that the local Indians built the stone wall for the protection of their town; even though the official records state the local Indians only built pallisade type fortresses! Later, the railroad used the stone for rip-rap along their tracks. By the way, a couple of the rangers who allowed me in the library were reprimanded and transferred for this offense. The reason given to them - "He [meaning me] was not qualified to conduct research on smoking pipes!"
rockman		#10	[-]
Posts: 964 (01/09/09 6:46 PM) Reply Quote More My Recent Posts Message Me Connection Blocking Invite Ignore User's Posts Report Post	I wonder how a person can get "qualified" to conduct research on smoking pipes? After reading all this and getting carried away to other mound sites in the U.S. I came across spiro mounds. A lot of mayan type artifacts seem to be associated with mound building. But the official explanations don't seem to consider it. The shaping of the skull (flatheads) would seem to me to be an important clue. I guess the question is really are they mayan or just influenced by mayan practices learned through trade?

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