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Florida Photographer |
Re: Towats, Tobats, Shinob | ||
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Hmm, can't edit . . . My last post was meant for bookcliff48
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Lostaslost |
Towats | ||
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Florida Photographer, I have never read or saw anything except Towats. I have all the books period. Is it not odd that Towats lived or dwelled in Carre-Shinob but it is argued that the Ute Indians did not use the word Carre-Shinob. I have seen the word used in books that dealt with other people besides Caleb so I do believe that Carre-Shinob is for real. In Mike Hawkeye Pickett's book Treasure Hunters Field Notebook there is some interesting material concerning the Seven Cities of Cibola and where only the Medicine Man or Chief was aloud to enter the area of Spanish Caches. It was these peoples duty alone to make the site toboo. They also were to hand down the exact location to there successor. Is this guy getting his information from the Rhoades Mine stories or what? If he lives in this area I have never heard of him and that can be possible. This book has some good information in it and it can be suggested.
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RL Gifford |
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Interesting, but I have met several Uintah Indians that have in the past used the term Carrie , or Carrie-Shinob.
One example would be Chunky's Dad. He talked to me about the Carrie over 30 years ago. He said that is dad had passed certain stories of the Carrie-Shinob to him when he was a young man, which goes back to the begining of the 20th century. I can only verify these personal conversations with persons that have been here a long time before I got here on ferma terra. I just wish I had asked Chunky's dad if his father told him where he heard the term Carrie, or Carrie-Shinob. In any case it goes way back before the arguments that I have read on ezboard. Prospect well..... RL Gifford |
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I have heard dry fork is a possible prospect, I am from the area have spent a lot of years listening to stories and searching myself.
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roughrockxxx |
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what the picture in your avator?
The only shot we have is the small picture. |
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oneeyedjack |
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That is rock creek by Yellow pine campground
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Lostaslost |
Rock Creek! | ||
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So Jack was you able to locate the 1856 Pine Mine there as described by George Thompson. I have also played in the area looking for this mine and then the Mine
of the Virgin Silver. I never actully have walked Rock Creek there and or even camped at Yellow Pine. I kind of stay away from the mines that have supposedly
been found. I have played all in the area. Have you ever found any soapstone at Soapestone. While prospecting there I came on to some there. It is naturally
easy to see as it is busted up and chalky looking there on the ground. Pick it up and you can mark really good on rock with it. I would think that what I found
would be to soft for what is used today at the schools. I will probley be working in the area again this year.
Have a good one Lost |
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oneeyedjack |
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Have searched rock creek a lot, have found a few old mines in that area but none that I have any intention of looking further into, was however wondering what
is the story behind the paint mine near kidney lake.
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Lostaslost |
Paint Mine! | ||
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I guess those in the area could tell you more about it than I can. I have never been there to look for that mine. I have heard that many has been there. I
think it is marked on maps. I have played a couple of tiems at the Kidney lake area. There is one mine that is colapsed that is clearly visable there on the
side where you drop down. Lots of gold and silver stories. Up above there as you are entering just a couple and or maybe 3 miles back there is lots of claims
laid out. I guess it is all still claimed. I spent some time searching at the moon Lake area. Been there several different times and pitched a tent there and
explored around for a few days each time. I never carried for the area myself. To many bugs and or nats there at the lkae swarming.
For the Paint mine I am sure I saw it on maps. Just take and calculate a Lat and Long and walk to it using your GPS. Ought to be fun. Be careful in all of this area as the reservation boundries is very close by when going into these areas. Lots of stories concerning Bear Wallow. Stay out and away. It is my understanding that it is still guared today. Lost |
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The paint mine is easy to get to from the top but the gate is locked from the bottom. It is still claimed by the Birds I think. Jimmy Bird had it and mined it
for years. Its nowhere near the reservation boundaries. The only thing to be afraid of there is you may see a Bear in the area, I did but from a distance.
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oneeyedjack |
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Thanks I also saw the other posts on this forum about the paint mine, I do see it marked on the map is a road that almost goes all the way there but don't
know its condition or if it is closed.
Went to lower pole creek yesterday to look around but started to rain so had to turn around but was easy getting in there. I do plan on going back to Pole Creek I have found the smelter near the sinks and have heard there are others, I also seen the mine holes above the sinks not sure who has claim to that am planning to go to Vernal soon I think just to do some research on claims. I also looked at yellow stone a lot near swift current creek, a friend of mine a long time ago found a riffle barrel stuck in a tree it has been removed since then and its direction mostly forgot, I just have a general idea but it is near swift creek and yellowstone. Moon lake I looked there but not for years, never liked moon lake much, I plan on going up there a lot this summer to look around have a lot of areas I want to check out. |
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