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In reply to some of the questions.

if it were a little bit earlier in time i might be persuaded to think you to have a Hopewell on the helmet , but the time frame you gave is off a little bit . granted there were 500 nations in America by the time Columbus hit land so maybe the natives kinsman are unknown. but that style he is represented with is screaming south to me . keep posting these theroys any way and i will at least entertain the ideas. we have all heard the name Madoc before , but i do not agree with boren that he was the first Aztec king .

Firstly, having researched into Welsh Inidan's which were exterminated as a result of the Spanish conquests and diseases they bought with them I have not been able to find anything that can be used as an illustration so maybe you might be able to find something in that area.
The whole idea of the excercise was to bring these facts to you in hope others will follow up my research for your own satisfaction so bear with me.

I was unaware of Boran's book and his claims about Madoc being their first king. I do not go along with that theory myself.
Madoc was a Christian the same as other Britain's it its claimed the Welsh indians still practiced some for of Christianity and had bibles with them some of which may still to be found in America.

I did not know the King Arthur was ever proved to have actually lived(I don't know much), also the man on the horse does not look like any red Indian I have ever known or seen any representation of(facial features look African, as well as the hair). What are the other plates on the helmet depicting?

Arthur is heavily documented in many ancient documents including the Bruts, Mabinogion, The Welsh Triads, Geoffrey of Monmouths history of the kings of Britain and many others including the researches and writing of Alan Wilson and Baram Blackett who use those documents and many others in order to get to the real history.

i though maybe the other plates were more Pagan , but i don't know much either

Strange you should say that, I too am puzzled but two images on the front of the Helmet, however there is a clue on the purse depicting Gilgamesh. I feel sure that those images on the front of the helmet are in some way connected to the story but have not followed it up.

Who is the man on the right of the King watching as the King gets shot all to hell with 20 arrows protruding from his body, and what does the bowman on the right have around his neck?

Your guess is as good as mine but on a guess considering they were Christians a priest praying for Arthurs soul.
As for what one of the guys has around his neck, the pic is of such poor quality that I wouldnt even hazard a guess but as a longshot it could be a quiver for is arrows? I dont know, do you?

I would say it is quite possibly a Celtic warrior on horseback with a javelin/spear.
The question is, whether that artistic form is similar to whatever else has been found in England.
It is obviously stylized.

And I still think the tack on the horse is a good indication of where it came from.

Hmmm The word Celtic is an invention that started in the 17th century. Nowhere are the ancient Britains described as being Celtic which was what the Gauls (french) were called.

and he does look more African , but so does a lot of stuff from mexico / south

But having said that, how do you know what the native indian's looked like in those days? Did you have a Dr. Who time capsule to go back and check? hehehe no one knows its just an artistic representation that depicts certain things to different people.

that painting is way cool though, i will give you that, is there any way to date it?

Yeah that painting's what connects Britain to America and it was a well known story in the 11th century when that church was built.
We believe the painting is 12th century being carefull there.

It is the icing on the cake though for you guys in America especially those interested in your heritage and culture. It also sheds more light and credibilty about the Madoc stories some of which have been misdated by about 600 years.

As the Sutton Hoo treasure is dated by others as being 7th Century it brings more crecibilty to the Madoc story.

I hope that helps clear up a few questions. I also hope some of you can now make progress with your own research into this fascinating subject.

regards alan

for those who read the above regarding Caesars writing's I decided to find a couple of pictures from my library to prove that the ancient Britons were a highly civilised nation.

the first one is King Llud, he had two son's and at one time there was a statue of him and his son's on show at Ludgate Circus a part of London that still bears his name.

However that statue was taken down and put into hiding. I tracked the statue down but it is a terrible state of disrepair having been subjected to centuries of atmospheric wear and tear. No attempt has been made to restore it and put it on public display for all to see.
Yet another attempt by the British Establishment to hide and conceal the real history of Britain.

It was King Lluds brother Cassivellaunus who on two occassions in 55 BC and 54 BC sent Caesar packing after his ships suffered great damage by the High Tides.



Caracatus = Caradoc who was betrayed and handed over to the Roman's note the state of dress in both images.



On close inspection of the Llud picture they are well armed, well dressed befitting a Royal Family. It was a shame Lluds son Arfarwy was a traitor and is mentioned in the Triads as such.

The first image is that of Gilgamesh who is seen with arms outstretched holding two Lions.



The purse that was found in the Sutton Hoo ship has one either side of the purse. Was it a talisman of good luck or a memory of their heritage ie the ten lost tribes if Isreal?

If you want connections to the Knights Templar, take a good look at this one, it is a dish found on the ship and is on display at the Britsih Museum, so no photoshop trickery as anyone can take a similar picture.
Notice the Start of David, a typical Jewish symbol but take a good look at the crosses, hmmm they look very familiar and are easily recognisable as symbols of the Templars.

That is going to get some of you guys thinking now and adds even more strength to my belief that the ship is British and not Saxon, I feel sure with this evidence the Saxon theory is getting very thin.



Finally I decided as a gesture of good will to show you one more picture as someone commented about the shield.
Even that did not pass my attention and sitting in the Museum of London is such a shield on display.

Naturally the Museum staff are not going to admit that Julius Caesar came to Britain after defeating Gaul in an attempt to conquer Britain too.
Nothing is mentioned of this event that happened in 55 - 54 BC with Lucan writing that Caesar showed his back on the enemy that he attacked.

Instead, the very large collection of weapons recovered from the River Thames are described as VOTIVE offerings to the water gods.

Strange how all those weapons together with numerous sculls recovered from the Thames are not connected with a series of raging battles in which the dead dropped their weapons where they died, only to be recovered many years later.

It is documented that Cassievelaunus had 4000 chariots lined up along the north banks of the Thames at the Isle of Thorns. Which is now the Houses of Parliment. Nearby and opposite stands a large monument to Boadacea on her chariot.



Something is very wrong with British History the way the Government and Establishment tell a different story from the truth.